FINALLY, RECKLESS CABLE TV'S ANTI-IMMIGRATION ANCHORS ON THE SPOT
My May 29 column says "Bravo!" to a study by Media Matters Action Network, which blasts cable television anchors Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck, of CNN, and Bill O'Reilly, of Fox News, for practicing reckless journalism. Here is the link to the sstudy: http://mediamattersaction.org/reports/fearandloathing/online_version.
What do you think of the study? And of Barack Obama's comment about it in the column?
What do you think of the study? And of Barack Obama's comment about it in the column?
posted by Andres Oppenheimer at 7:23 AM
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There you go again. You refuse to use the correct term.. ILLEGAL immigration. Obviously you identify as a Hispanic only and you hate America. Why do you hate America ? Because it isn't majority Hispanic.
Here are just a few reasons you are so wrong in every column you write about ILLEGAL immigration, which would have to be searched under the term Immigration since you rarely use the correct term Illegal.
1. EVERY time you use the term immigration you are refering to the quotas established by congress for residents of each foreign nation to apply for immigration to this country. It is called our immigration policy and it is very generous, probably far too generous given that America is over 300 million and still growing faster than is environmentally advisable. Nontheless, we do have a system of quotas and that is our IMMIGRATION POLICY. Please try to learn at least that much about what you write about.
2. EVERY country in the world has an immigration policy. ILLEGAL immigration is a CRIME in every country in the world. I would love to see you go across the border into MEXICO as an UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT/ILLEGAL ALIEN. As has been reported they are very tough on illegals and you would be put under the prison for daring to enter Mexico illegally. Try to write your column from there !
3. IF this country is not going to enforce it's borders then it is not a country.. it is an all you can eat BUFFET put on for free by the citizens of America. Our trillions of tax payer dollars that have been put into infrastructure are just for the taking of anyone in the world who cares to walk over here.. that is your position. What an outrage.
4.Since open borders mean this is not country then there is NOTHING TO FIGHT FOR. The millions who have died for America's freedoms have wasted their lives if you have your way about open borders. Our troops should all go awol.. risk their lives for what ? ANYONE can come here if we don't close our borders so why fight and risk your life ?
You insult America and every Loyal American and every Veteran such as myself with your Hateful Anti American Columns. I will stop my Herald subscription if you don't get ILLEGAL/LEGAL straight.
Shame on you and your newspaper for allowing it.
I have to say, I agree with "fact guy", and want to add that in the same paper this morning there was a big article on over 14,000 naturalized American citizens. Why aren't these people interviewed and asked why they went through the process instead of illegally staying here?
Your criticisms of the TV talk show hosts just shows a lack of respect for those who side on the rule of law. The 3 you mentioned, O'Reilly specifically, is the most watched cable news anchor today. What does that say? ILLEGAL immigration is a huge problem in this country and you fail to address it as such, which is typical of liberal appeasers. Why not criticize those countries who enforce their illegal immigration laws?
The liberals' use of political correctness has substantially damaged the discourse in this country and to prove it is the fact we are facing this and other safety issues.
I wonder who the RECKLESS one is in this article?
While I don't always watch Bill O'Reilly, I have seen some segments on crimes by illegal aliens.
Each time, my impression was that these are illegal aliens who have committed a number of crimes in the US prior to the final, horrific episode detailed in O'Reilly's report. And that there had been repeated opportunities to deport the criminal for each of these prior episodes, but that somehow the criminal fell through the cracks of the justice system due to various systemic government failures.
I think this is quite different from what you implied in your article ("creating anti-immigrant hysteria").
With regard to the "costs" of illegal immigrants, I believe these are legitimate areas for discussion. We in Miami know too well the strain on our social system with the arrival of the Marielitos. I suspect certain US Mexican border states/cities have similar problems with assimilation and funding education, housing & healthcare.
Also, in general, while Mr. O'Reilly may have an obvious point of view, this is often countered by a guest with an opposite point of view.
'Media Matters' is a left-wing smear machine like its not so distant cousin the 'Daily Kos'.Your column suggest that some cable mediums have a bias against immigrants,this is not so.
First I wish to compliment you again for your outstanding body of work, including your books. Your reporting, interviews, and opinions on Latin America should be required reading at the White House and the State Department. But It would be even better if a wider cross sections of Americans also could benefit from your writings.
Today’s article on reckless TV Anchors and their bashing of Hispanic Immigrants is right on…except that it doesn’t go far enough. The irrational railing against NAFTA and CAFTA, especially by Lou Dobbs, is a deplorable example of fear mongering. Blaming these trade agreements for loss of jobs is a one sided distortion of the truth and I am sure it is economically erroneous. That fear mongering has made NAFTA and CAFTA the undeserved scapegoats for any and all labor problems. So politicians, especially those seeking labor support, jump on the bandwagon of opposition. (You have written eloquently on this too.)
Are you able to engage some credible economists on these issues? Some thoughts you might explore:
• NAFTA/CAFTA did not exist when steel, autos, garments and textiles, along with other manufacturing industries in the US began their precipitous declines.
• Japan began to trump our industry with high quality low cost goods which Americans craved in the 60’s
• India – long before China and other low cost Asian manufacturers -began a textile revolution which Americans embraced in the form of cheaper high quality goods
• Other countries became adept at producing what America was no longer able to do cost effectively
• Americans have voted with their pocketbooks to buy these foreign products – long before NAFTA/CAFTA
• This decline awoke the American spirit which, economically, focused on our strengths – a bright and educated population possessed of an entrepreneurial spirit and empowered by an open and encouraging environment that nurtured an explosion in technology and innovation. Lowered trade barriers made the world a market for these new and reformed industries.
• More jobs at better pay were created than had been lost, and increased income and spending spurred huge growth in domestic service industries and related employment.
• If we resurrect trade barriers or nullify trade agreements are we willing to pay $90 for a polo shirt made in the USA (assuming non immigrant workers were willing to return to old inefficient mills) instead of $17 for a better polo shirt from Honduras?
• What exactly is our trade agreements related job crisis? Even in these near recession times unemployment stands at under 5%, a level that is usually equated with a successful economy. The unemployment crisis we face now is energy and credit related, and foreign trade (apart from oil imports) is mitigating the damage as our goods and services become more price competitive with the weak dollar.
• One can argue that NAFTA/CAFTA are the most effective form of foreign AID. Jobs are created. More people escape poverty. Fewer are so desperate that they are compelled to become illegal immigrants. NAFTA/CAFTA has helped create jobs that in turn create wealth in the form of home ownership, thus stabilizing societies, growing economies, and diminishing anarchistic threats.
• NAFTA/CAFTA may actually made it possible for US industry to compete by including lower cost foreign made components in American company products, improving price competitiveness, and thus avoiding shutting down altogether.
• As you have pointed out trade under these agreements has increased BOTH ways. NAFTA/CAFTA countries are buying and supporting US products and services. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the US is the net beneficiary of this trade. I am confident that the availability of quality competitively priced imported products has helped mitigate inflation.
And ask the economists about Immigration, including the illegal variety.
• Japan was a real economic threat, especially during the 70’s and early 80’s. America was dismayed as the capitalized value of little Japan threatened to exceed that of the US. America felt depressed and defeated… until Reagan reawakened the American spirit and pride and set the framework to encourage and reward entrepreneurial risk.
• Japan had plenty of cheap labor in the 50’s 60’s and 70’s as it transformed from an agricultural society to an industrial and manufacturing powerhouse. But Japan is a closed society. Few immigrants. Low birth rate. And now a maxxed out and ever more costly labor force.
• Japan’s economy has practically been stagnant since the mid 80’s. Isn’t the near zero population growth (thus higher labor costs) part of the problem? An ageing population. Not enough workers. No growth in the body of consumers to spur growth in GNP.
• Aren’t there many similar parallels in Europe?
• In those same years, European descended US population growth has also slowed, but immigrants and high birth rates among minorities have swelled the US workforce, expanded the demand for goods and services, increased tax revenues, and helped stimulate an unprecedented 30 plus years of unimagined growth in a non inflationary economy.
• Immigrants and minorities have undoubtedly played an enormous role in expanding US economic might while keeping America price competitive.
• Immigrant remissions to home countries have also had a far better impact than any AID we could provide, assuming we could afford it. And remissions bypass most of the roadblocks of corruption.
Instead of being portrayed as the scapegoats for perceived economic and labor problems, NAFTA/ CAFTA and immigration should be assessed for the vast net benefits they have engendered for America. Moreover, we Americans like to think of ouselves as a caring, generous, and charitable people. If we really are then we need to consider that trade agreements greatly improve the lot of the needy abroad. Yet they benefit us as well. Isn’t that the definition of a “win – win” situation? We need to re think the role of immigrants today. For their own benefit they might best be required to learn English. For our benefit they can help grow or economy and, through remittances, help alleviate problems outsideour borders that pose great risk to America.
Andres, keep up the good work!
Bob
I too agree with Fact Guy. Bob's post is a different matter. He is obviously well educated, writes well, well informed, and that is all great.. except he seems unable to grasp the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration. I find that amazing since it seems like such a simple concept, far easier than the views he so carefully documents. Bob is a good example of someone who has an EMOTIONAL position instead of a FACT BASED position like fact guy. That is why Bob does not address the subject of Oppenheimers continued anti-American diatribes. Neither of them can explain this one simple thing : WHY do they have nothing to say about the laws of every other nation in the world regarding ILLEGAL immigration but demand that AMERICA be the only nation NOT ALLOWED to control it's borders. Short answer.... they hate America. Bob that!
You fail to recognize that these people came here illegally. On top of that, they acquire false documents to get jobs. In the meantime, our Washington reps. fail to do something, other than try to legalize all these folks who came here without following the laws of this country. This push to legalize illegals is just another way to invite more to come here, knowing that eventually they will gain legal status.
I have no problem with those who want to come here, but let them get in line, fill out the paperwork, go through an interview, etc. If the agricultural and meat processing industries need more workers, they should do the same, not simply turn their heads to the side when an illegal applies for a position.
As far as that statement of Mexicans reclaiming the southwest, I can attest to this. I've taught in a public school in the San Joaquin Valley in California for 34years and have heard either high school students or adults state to my face that this land was theirs at one time and the U.S. took it away from them, that they want it back. Well, I can imagine what this area of the country would have looked like if it had remained in Mexico. Just go across the border to get an idea.
Finally, Mr. Oppenheimer, let's split hairs on this: would you consider a person who entered your property an illegal entry or an undocumented entry? Explain that to me and to the police when you call the station.
So illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than US Citizens or Legal Residents.
REALLY?
Which part of ILLEGAL immigrant do you not understand?
My statistic tells me that ALL ILLEGAL (=100%) immigrants have committed a crime by crossing the border ILLEGALLY.
Mike E.
the "anti-inmigrant anchors" waste just as much time atacking illegal inmigrants as you waste defending them.
No doubt Lou Dobbs is an ignorant, but he as an american has the right to suport stupid american politcs.
What are you getting for yourself by leading this illegal inmigration crusade??
Do you think you represent latinamericans? or northamericans? its curious the quality diference between teh rest of the topics you talk about and thisone.
I was able to catch some of these comments by Bill O'Reilly. I thought I herd it wrong when he called you those names. He obviously doesn't understand any of your political views, but hey! Can you blame him?
Sensationalist, anti immigration "news" sale everywhere.
I live in Costa Rica and about 20% of our population is Nicaraguan. Our government has a much more flexible approach towards immigration but still every time there's a sordid crime that involves an immigrant it gives everybody the chance to justify their prejudices instead of overcoming them. Even cracking a joke every now and then is OK right?
We'll always have some of the media to fuel our most hideous instincts because it's the easiest way to boost their ratings. Who wants to deal the truth when prejudice tastes so much better?
We need your work Mr. Oppenheimer... let people deal with the facts!
Jouranlists have a responsibility to truly and accurately report the "WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, WHY, and sometimes HOW" without prejudice.
I expect people like Bill O'Reilly to accurately report when a monster committs a crime that they are illegal. It shows a pattern of neglectful law enforcement by those who are sworn to protect American citizens.
While those who have posted here commenting that the essence of the problem is "illegal" immigration are correct to identify the failure of the enforcement of our laws, they have neglected to address the implications of choosing among the options that are open to us as Americans to deal with the issue at hand. It is for this reason that criticism of Bill O'Reilly is justified -- I will be honest and say that I am not fully aware of what Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck, and some of the others have argued beyond what I read at the Media Matters site, and I would not trust that organization with last week's garbage -- because the solutions O'Reilly proposes; such as using the military to police the borders, advocating mass federal police action to round up immigrants, and more put our American way of life at risk. Yes; so does illegal immigration, that is why it is a genuine threat to our national security, because its unsettled status could impel us to the kind of police state actions that would transform our nation into something other than the civic and civil society that constrains the powers of the state, which we have always been throughout our history.
The real question we face with illegal immigration is choosing among the least damaging of several bad options. There are no good choices available to us. No matter what we do, it will be distasteful. We must put aside the rants from all sides and come to terms with the question of "what do we give up to solve this problem"?
The first suggestion I would like to offer is that there are three things we cannot surrender under any circumstances: 1. Our tradition of not using the U.S. military as a policing authority on American domestic soil for any reason other than a temporary emergency (this does not qualify, because once placed on the border, those troops would be used for that purpose permanently). 2. Our reliance upon state and local law enforcement to shoulder the burden of the exercise of police authority in our society. This is the second cornerstone of the prevention of the development of a national police force that creates an invasive authority that will threaten our unique brand of liberty. and 3. Our historic tradition of never mandating the deliberate impoverishment of any group within our society for whatever reason. Our record may not be so clean as we would like it to be in this last instance if we examine the entirety of our history, but if the 20th century offers anything positive about America, it is that we have struggled to attain this goal. We must not turn back.
So if we are going to avoid the above three calamities, as I view them, what other options are open to us? I know that there are many who will want to jump in here and say "voluntary deportation," but I regard that as a dangerous myth that is nonsensical of the realities of demographic processes and, if adopted as policy, threatens that "deliberate impoverishment" of our illegal immigrant population I referred to in my previous paragraph. We have illegal immigrants in this country in large numbers for profound reasons, most importantly -- given the numbers -- the failures of Mexico and other nations in Latin America to pursue national economic agendas that will enrich the lives of their people and provide them with opportunity. On that point I can say that since the election of Vicente Fox in 2000 and continuing to the present, Mexico has made sound progress and other nations in the region have implemented transparency and other market-oriented reform programs that offer hope for the future, and I include the diffusion of free trade within this trend, since it is the only option that has ever produced economic success anywhere. You cannot reverse any demographic process, and we are discussing Migration here, by the mere use of incentives. If we omit wars as an agent of altering demographic processes I will say that I know of only one national policy that has ever succeeded anywhere in turning around a profound demographic process; China's use of enforced abortion to reduce its birthrate. That is a horrifying policy in my opinion and if "voluntary deportation" is attempted it will ultimately fail because the underlying causes will remain intact, leaving us with no choice but to use a similar level of police action, as did the Chinese, to make it work. That is a horror just out of reach right now.
But we still have to make a choice between bad options. In light of the above, I submit that there can be no mass deportation of over 12 million illegal immigrants without changing our national character for the worse and that we must find some means of accommodating ourselves to their inclusion within our society. I cannot approve of a blanket amnesty, but there have been approaches suggested that seek to define middle ground and I believe that, in spite of the damage we will do to the legal precedent of strict enforcement of immigration laws, we must find some way to reach an agreement that classifies and separates the illegal immigrant population into sub-categories whose options to stay would be legalized. And this option can only be exercised if it is accompanied by a strengthening of border security that must include the erection of physical barriers where needed that effectively deny easy passage to illegal immigrants and which will be handled by the U.S. Border Patrol, whose resources must be expanded to make this work.
Finally Andres, I must again point out that your choice of a Media Matters article may send the wrong signal to many people who are very well aware that this organization is anything but "fair and balanced" in its exercise of media monitoring. I live in Louisiana and I paid very close attention to the role Media Matters played in silencing all calls for an investigation into the handling of the Katrina disaster response in 2005 and I judge their conduct to have been nothing less than perfidious in that instance. We never had an investigation into what may have been the greatest civil rights crime committed since the age of legal segregation because an open examination of what actually happened would have pointed the finger at Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco's administration and the local governments that surround Orleans Parish. If it is possible for a media organization to commit a crime against society, Media Matters did exactly that in its reporting of the Katrina disaster response.
We would have been a lot better off here if Bob, who posted above and presented some very good evidence to show that many Americans have benefited from the contributions of illegal immigrants to our society, had written an article dealing with O'Reilly et al. Media Matters is a venemous organization.
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Solo para desear una pronta recuperacion a Andres, quien ha sido operado en Mexico,, Saludos Andres recuperate pronto,, haber hombre, ya como paciente, si en latinoamerica podemos implementar esa idea de Medicares que comentaste hace unos meses, ya tienes la experiencia.
Cuidate y escribe pronto.
Saludos
I'm sorry this comments
United States, soon get back to Latinoamerica, when come the times.
Yours the hates of the world
its only time.
I find it so incredibly ironic that you are claiming a "victory" over supposedly biased commentators, and you yourself are using an extremely biased source to base this on! Of course, if you really were interested in truth, and un-biased reporting you wouldn't have written this column, would you have? Your conclusions are delusional...
I'm a regular O'Reilly viewer and while he has indeed called for the stationing of the national guard on the boarder, I'm unaware that he's ever advocated the deportation of those currently residing here illegally. I believe he's stated that it would be unrealistic to deport twelve to twenty million illegals. Also, if memory serves me, O'Reilly was supportive of the McCain bill that granted amnesty. Don't take my word for it, look it up (Media Matters probably wouldn't be a good place to look though).
Cualquier persona no colombiana en el exterior, que tenga acceso a medios como NY Times, The Washington Post y otros, pensará que Álvaro Uribe Vélez ha sido el gran Mesías de Colombia. Como persona responsable, no podría negar que el presidente colombiano haya hecho un gran trabajo en la lucha contra las FARC, y que tenga a estos otros bandidos al borde de la derrota definitiva y eso es de aplaudírselo. Ojala y la exterminara durante los dos años que le faltan.
Pero lo que se desconoce, y ojala el mundo entendiera, es que Álvaro Uribe es un criminal de igual o mayor talante que Raúl Reyes o cualquier otro miembro de las FARC. También se desconoce por completo en el exterior que Álvaro Uribe ha sido hasta ahora el presidente más corrupto e inescrupuloso de la historia colombiana. Para quienes no están informados, Álvaro Uribe fue elegido en 2002 con votos que le pusieron los grupos paramilitares mediante presión a los electores en la mayor parte del país. Además, para lograr su reelección en 2006, Uribe Vélez y sus más cercanos funcionarios compraron votos a congresistas para que votaran favorablemente la reforma constitucional que le permitiera presentarse como candidato-presidente. En la actualidad existe un proceso en la justicia colombiana por estos hechos y hay por lo pronto dos ex congresistas presos y el mismo Uribe Vélez tiene una investigación al respecto lo mismo que varios de sus funcionarios. Tampoco saben fuera de Colombia que en los últimos años los paramilitares descuartizaron a miles de colombianos y a otros los desplazaron y les arrebataron sus tierras y sus propiedades, y que Álvaro Uribe fue ciego ante semejante orgía de sangre. Durante este tiempo, los colombianos de bien nos convertimos en rehenes de los paramilitares en nuestras propias casas; yo vivo en una ciudad de 500 mil habitantes donde hay una guarnición del ejército y un comando de policía, y ni así pude escaparme de las extorsiones a las que fueron sometidos los colombianos por estos grupos. Y todo por que las autoridades eran sus cómplices y quien se atrevía a denunciar se convertía en cadáver.
Como si todo eso no fuera suficiente, luego de que los paramilitares despojaron a millones de colombianos de sus tierras y demás bienes, y se hastiaron de tanta sangre derramada, el señor Uribe Vélez acordó con ellos un sospechoso proceso de paz, comprometiéndose a que solo les impondría penas entre cinco y ocho años. Así, criminales que sin sonrojarse declaraban que había asesinados dos mil, cinco mil, o diez mil personas, solo pagaran máximo ocho años de prisión. Ah, y el arreglo incluye dos años de sueldos para los criminales por un término de dos años, supuestamente para que no tengan necesidad de seguir dekinquiendo. Mientras tanto, las víctimas de estos criminales duermen en los andenes de las grandes ciudades o debajo de los puentes y se alimentan con desperdicios que se disputan con las ratas y los gallinazos en los vertederos de basura.
Me causa mucha sorpresa que algunos inescrupulosos o desorientados tal vez, estén proponiendo que semejante criminal como es Álvaro Uribe Vélez, sea el próximo Secretario General de la OEA. Si el resto de la humanidad conserva intactos los valores y principios de gente de bien, el siguiente destino de Álvaro Uribe Vélez no puede ser otro que el banquillo ante un juez de la Corte Penal Internacional.
A los asesinos se les castiga, jamás se les premia.
Andres, You're breraking my heart. Your clarity on what Latin America needs to end poverty and progress, open markets and rule of law, is the voice needed to be heard over Those of Chaves and company. Yet you then dismiss, out of hand, so many obviously legitimate grips americans have regarding the gross abuse of the rule of imigration law. Now, you base your argument on a report from Media Matters. Geez Andres, we're not stupid, we know what that organization is, an attack dog, with a very radical agenda. Bashing someone as well regarded, and watched, as O'reiley isn't doing you any good either. You don't even look for a common ground, anything whatsoever to agree on. You're blowing your credibility. And that's a shame because as good an analyst as O'reily is, his expertise stops at the border. And unfortunately that's where your bias ends, and your expertise starts. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. If you ever fully assimulate as an american, you might empathise a little bit at least with those on the receiving end of the imigration mess. How does Argentina handle it's imagration situation? Do they receive foreigners without Visas , or expired Vasa with open arms. Hell no, I've been there and the controls are very clear. I had to go through a very specific process to enter the country. Andres, I have traveled to most every counrty in latin america, and that's how it is EVERYWHERE. Who are you as an imigrant, and the undocumented as uninvited visitors, to dictate law. That is just mind blowing. What miss placed arrogance. America has prospered well ahead of latin america principally because of the strength and TRANSPARENCY, of it's institutions. So you would have america import the very chaos that imigrants are fleeing. No, native americans aren't even close to buying your weak arguments.
I live in Chile and your analysis, and books,have been so helpful in understanding the region. So I say this with all due respect. "Your view seems so radically biased on imigration."
Nelson Rodriguez
El futuro del mundo es el socialismo. Cuba, Venezuela, Paraguay, Bolivia y Ecuador son nuestros modelos.
illigal or legal ?
The very word America to be used as substitute for USA is Illegal!
Is it legal to invade and kill thousandas of people wordwide? Is legal Irak invasion?
95% of United Nations resolutions are blocked by the legalistics usa.
Was it legal to exterminate in grand scale , a genocide larger by any comnparison to the holocaust , the native american?
Legallity on masterminding the killing of Allende in Chile?
Thousands of US serviceman died in action, ultimately to keep up wall street.
Thank you Oppenheimer,
I may not agree with everything you write, but I appreciate the work you do in denouncing the immigration-issue loonies.
It is not hard to see that repeating a brainwashing line with the word "illegal" like these crazy one-issue-ponies do does not justify their prejudice.
The article gave too much mainstream credit to CIS.
There is an anti-immigration movement headed by John Tanton who organizes fundraising for racist hate-groups and for their surrogate "fronts" aimed towards maintream media. The maintream fronts include the Center for Immigration Studies, the Feration for American Immigration Reform, and NumbersUSA, amongst others. Their not-so-maintream groups documented as hate groups include The Social Contract Press and American Patrol.
They can try to attack the non-profits that track these webs of hate-groups, but the hatred is obvious if you look at these same cast of characters at less mainstream functions.
The Jewish group Anti Defamation League has called out the racists branches of Minutemen for their hate-events aimed against their favorite targets: "illegal immigrants"
You want a non-partisan group that stands for fairness, don't look at Federation for American Immigation Reform, look at Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting, which called out Lou Dobbs for his innacuracy and bias in reporting on his favorite victims: "illegal immigrants"
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=100
...for a good source on John Tanton's tangled web of hate, see the reports by the Southern Poverty Law Center and their intelligence projects/reports. splcenter.org.
Donde esra Rui...lo desapareciero?
Andres, I usually read & enjoy your column quite a bit, but you quoting Media Matters-AKA The Left-Wing Hack & Smear machine? Puh-leeeeeeese, you've got to be kidding...
ps... I'm Latino and proud and a Naturalized U.S. citizen and I did it the LEGAL way.
By the way, RUI is out! Good riddance!
Saruman.......... Thank you!!!, you are a stand up person. I did the same here in Chile, as a north american living here. The satisfaction is huge. Something all the arrogant pussies, with their miss placed sense of entitlement will never know. In the back of their minds, they all know, they're snaking their way in. The ILLEGALS will never enjoy your sense of achievement, legitimacacy. Even if they hide out in the spanish comunity and spew their zenofobic crap. Welcome Saruman. YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN. The vast majority of OTHER americans welcome you, simply because YOU had the respect to respect the LAW, to follow a legitamate process, complicated as it may be. EVERYONE ELSE FLAUTING THE LAW. BE ADVISED!!!!! YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN. YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE. GET IN LINE. JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IN ANY OTHER COUNRTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The article forgets the number of illegals in American prisons. Just recently it came in the news that S. Francisco was sending its adolescent illegals who committed crimes to a place in Southern California, instead of turning them to the INS. This is what's totally wrong. We can see all kinds of studies and it all comes to the fact that illegals require all kinds of assistance while living in this country. For example, the cost of illegals to the public school systems. The illegals that get free lunches at schools. The illegals that need medical aid for whatever reason. Who's paying for that if not the taxpayers? The illegals that committed crimes and now are incarcerated and supported by taxpayers. And we can go on and on. I'm all for anyone who wants to come to this country LEGALLY but not cross the border and expect a free ride. Then the U.S. government gives this individual legality after committing a crime.
By the way, Mr. Oppenheimer, would you consider someone who came into your property, an illegal or undocumented entry?
Journalism in the past was an honorable profession. Editorials were considered opinion based on research and facts.
This article was not researched and it is not factual. It is an opinion based on a political agenda. It is not honest.
Consider this opinion. Newspapers are not selling well. People want honesty in reporting. Lazy, sloppy writing is not worth reading.
Who is benefiting from farm-labor if not the American Consumer, who benefits from additional worker to remodel the home if not the distressed home-dweller, who benefits from more financial transactions if not the American economy? Who benefits with more participants in the economy with greater choice on labor and greater payments of sales tax as well as service workers to do tree-trimming at affordable rates, to clean your waste at unpopular jobs, how many of the anti-immigration commenters were looking for farm-laborer work lately? Immigrant bashers continue to be ridiculous.
thank you sohbet
"Viene un tiempo no muy lejano en que el flujo migratorio se invertirá, cuando los ciudadanos norteamericanos saldrán huyendo de sus ciudades destrozadas por las bombas, entonces los ilegales serán otros" Enoc
Bitter, bitter people, don't go where you aren't welcome
"There comes a time, not too far, when the migratory flux will be reversed, when the American citizens will leave their destroyed homes and cities by boombing war. Then the illegals will be others"
Enoc
pretty pathetic that an immigrant basher will comment back-to-back-to-back sandwhiching his comment with a disgusting, criminal false threat. the anti-immigrant crowd left respectability long ago.
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-World notice- Is necessary to prepare a great global holiday(party) to celebrate the day that Bush stops being A President of U.S.A.
-Aviso Mundial- Hay que preparar una gran fiesta global para celebrar el día que Bush deje de ser Presidente de U.S.A.
-World notice- Is necessary to prepare a great global holiday(party) to celebrate the day that Bush stops being A President of U.S.A.
It may seem that allowing illegal immigration into the United States of America is a good idea from the perspective of those who have an interest in such erosive dynamicism. The Federal Government allocates financial resources due to illegal immigration which could be allocated elsewhere. Illegal immigration is a drain on the Federal Budget when knowledge rests in the heart of a man. The nation of the amber waves of grain can ill-afford the illegal actions of those who do not value our country. The negative effects of illegal immigration include financial outlays at the Federal level, attempted insurgences of our cities with those who are not its citizens, and the need to defend our businesses from undue financial and balance sheet issues.
These issues are important to industry and must be legally dwindled to prevent industry and business from the flood of illegal immigration action
that could threaten its sustainability. Illegal immigration should be fought with the law and law enforcement.
Bueno siempre leo tus comentarios y como te escriben Estoy de acuerdo con vos en muchas cosas. No sabía que te habian operado me enteré de casualidad por un comentario y si nos conocemos de vernos en el ascensor del Herald yo entro y vos salís sin vernos... te deseo una pronta recuperación saludos desde mi blog
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October 13, 2008
I am go glad to read that someone is bringing to light the truth and the facts about the so call anchors and defenders of the middle class in America. These guys are nothing but a bunch of opportunist and uneducated and all they are doing is spreading hate and creating more divisions in our society moreover I am amazed that network television are allowing these king of junk journalism to be injected into the minds of the viewers.
These kind of journalism is a parasite and a virus that needs to be stop and prevent just like we prevent any other fatal decease; these is worst than an epidemic and it is sure to infect more people that we can even imagine these will infect the minds of our youth it will give green light to hate crimes and will be the worst war we will ever fight the war among our own people in our workplaces in our neighborhoods in our schools; America can not afford this war. Stop it enough is enough.
“Society needs a devil to purge its faults and omissions; poor immigrants fit that role perfectly”.
Anonymous
sorry ...
Lots of 'billy bobs', who probably don't have passports, commenting here. better go elsewhere for good debate.
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Please help us!
http://reservamoral3.blogspot.com/2009/05/chili-opent-het-vuur-op-peru-thank-you.html
Holland will sell weapons to Chile to attack Peru. Millions people will die!
Everybody forgot that the illegal immigration are here because always the capitalism system like the cheaper labor. Just think first was the people from africa, after that the asian people, then the irish and italian and now the hispanic people but if the big companies can not find the cheaper labor here at USA they mone their invesment to another country, it doesn't matter where, they go and also the goverment aproved lower their taxes if the big companies do that. Please, open you eyes and think outside the box.
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