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Thursday, August 02, 2007


A news item buried in The Miami Herald's business pages earlier this week saying that the Irish have become Europe's wealthiest people should become a mandatory history lesson in all Latin American schools and be posted on the walls of government offices throughout the region. Read the column here, and let us know whether you agree.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes this problem solver for latin america works great on paper but until the politicians of these countries stop stealing and skimming off the top their economies and the population will remain in poverty. All these countries have the ability and the resources to equal ireland but the oppression and inequality reflects on the amount of their people immigrating leally and illegaly into the us. Also american companies are going south of our borders and exploiting these economies and making the rich richer. Until the leaders of these countries or the people make them accountable for their actions the situation will remain sadly to say the same.

7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from: Paul Thørsen

Come on, åndêrš, Ireland has no high-tech firms and produces products because of outsourcing. It is not their technology. As soon as salaries rise, outsourcing companies will look for cheaper places to do business. They will not relocate to a country that is corrupt and where the workers just want to sue.
What is your plan for making Latin American competitive on the world stage? That's what I want to hear. You Latin Americans have got to change your mindset to doing what you can do to make Latin America a player on the world stage instead of sneaking into rich countries and robbing them blind of all their wealth.
Brasil brought in millions of Japanese, Germans and Italians.
And those people are going to make Brasil a player on the world stage.
Ethnic Japanese are the finest human beings in the world, bar none.

9:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The examples of industrializing countries such as Ireland, Spain, Chile, and the Asian Tigers teaches us some lessons that your article clearly points out.
The lesson is that a country can smash old stereotypes by achieving reforms that modernize their economies.

As many countries throughout the world show, these reforms are not easy to implement without will, effort, skill, and some luck. One thing that makes it difficult is that people have a hard time accepting change.

The lessons from some of the people blogging here is that the lessons are hard for some people to learn.

12:50 AM  
Blogger Andy said...

Andres, do you have a link to the original story?

9:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was an excellent editorial. Two points

1. The 1965 US immigration law changes greatly cut back on immigration from
Ireland. I suggest that shutting off this safety valve forced Ireland to develop its
own human resources rather than relying on emigration. Note that the Irish
success story really began in the 1970s, with the government establishment of
a network of technical colleges emphasizing engineering and computer science. See

The resulting availability of talent encouraged US computer and software
companies to establish branches in Ireland starting in the 80s.
Thus, shutting off the emigration safety valve from Mexico could likewise force
that nation to begin investing in its own people.

2. Instead of constant demands for more bilingual education and affirmative
action, Latinos in the U.S. should also take an example from the Irish and
learn to rely on themselves. English is the universal language of science and
technology, and no amount of University-level affirmative action can compensate
for failing to learn basic math, reading and writing skills at the K-12 level.

Perhaps you could re-examine issue No. 2 in a future editorial.

12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is no mere coincidence that Ireland's prosperity coincided with a significant increase in its economic freedom.

The 2007 Index of Economic Freedom, published by The Heritage Foundation and The Wall Street Journal, listed Ireland's economy as the 7th most free in the world, a close second to the United Kingdom among European nations. (Ireland's economy was the 26th most free just 10 years ago.)

The most free Latin American economy, Chile's, was ranked #11 in 2007. Many of the region's economies were rated as considerably less free:
El Salvador -- #29
Uruguay -- #33
Panama -- #47
Mexico -- #49
Costa Rica -- #51
Nicaragua -- #61
Peru -- #63
Guatemala -- #68
Brazil -- #70
Colombia -- #73
Honduras -- #76
Argentina -- #95
Paraguay -- #99
Ecuador -- #108
Bolivia -- #112
Haiti -- #135
Venezuela -- #144
Cuba -- #156

Without significant freeing of their economies, many Latin American countries appear doomed to being economically backward.

6:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from: Paul Thørsen

good points anonymous. I have been saying that for years, that there is no incentive for Latin Americans to create jobs in their own countries and to develop their own industries. It's too easy for them to sneak into the USA and to then smuggle tens of billions of dollars back home. Nor do Hispanicks in the USA have to earn anything, everything is given to them because they are minorities. They are given top jobs in USA society by Affirmative Action, they do not earn those good jobs as Asian-AMERICANS do. I have no reluctance at all to adding "American" to Asian. And after giving Hispanicks top jobs in USA society, Hispanicks then claim they must be the reason why the USA is rich and successful and they demand compensation for making the USA successful, which is always the same compensation they always demand: making Spanish the one and only offical language in the USA, having all USA national holidays honor Hispanicks, renaming all our cities and streets to full Spanish names, rewriting USA History to make it appear as if Hispanicks created the USA.....

10:49 PM  
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7:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from: Paul Thørsen

truth matters, why are we allowing Hispanic politicnas to tell us we are going to give amnesty to illeagl Hispanics? That's like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

12:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul Thorse, half your comments here are blatently anti-hispanic and immature.

The topic here was Ireland's economic model as one that should influence latin american countries.

The topic is not always about undocumented immigrants no matter how much you would like it to be.
Get a life.

2:21 AM  
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9:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Despite pointing out a number of inaccurate assements in your book 'Cuentos Chinos' last year, you continue to reiterate your ill-informed analysis in this article. It is a very erroneous claim that Ireland before the economic boom can be compared to Latin America today.

Well for a start your conjecture about being poverty-ridden is relative. Yes we were poor, but as the reputable 'Economist' magazine said 'Ireland was the poorest of the rich. Even in the days of poor economic conditions in the early 80's, Ireland continued to enjoy a highly advanced welfare state, an excellent health system, public housing for all and a superb free education system.

The fact is that Ireland started with a very high human capital base, with a strong bias in the education system towards the sciences and engineering. The ground work was laid over 30 years beforehand. (Such was the importance focused on education, teachers salaries were one of the highest in Europe in relative terms, thereby attracting highly motivated and high quality teachers). Other factors included a high quality and independent judiciary and an independent public services.

It's frivlous to suggest that Latin America can mimic Ireland's success, at least in the short term to medimum. If they want to have a chance of acheiving even a small fraction of the growth in Irish wealth rates, they better start investing in education, health care etc on a mass scale right now. And of course massive instutional changes would be required to ensure that their legal systems and public governance are transparent and fair.

Soccer-loving? - If you had bothered to do any research you would have noted that gaelic games are our biggest sports.

Roman Catholic? Well so is Belguim, France & Austria and Western and Southern Germany. Not sure what your point is.

10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even with all our problems
Americans in tons are coming
to Latin America because they
cannot afford to live in
the U.S anymore.They live like
poor in the U.S.
Pity but true.

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