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Thursday, August 24, 2006

COLUMN: FROM WHAT I SAW, ECUADOR IS GOING (FURTHER?) DOWNHILL

GUAYAQUIL, Ecuador -- When I flew here this week to moderate Ecuador's first presidential debate in two decades, I thought that most candidates had learned something from this country's experience of chronic political chaos and would offer constructive ideas to build a stable democracy. How wrong I was! I started my questions to the five leading candidates for the Oct. 15 election on the issue of political instability, because Ecuador has had seven presidents over the past 10 years, and 5 economy ministers over the past 15 months. Guess what they answered? Read the full column here. I'm interested in your comments.

9 Comments:

Blogger roberto e said...

The candidates next step is to blame the USA/OXY/NeoLIberals/The Conquistadors/and Bono for buying a piece of Forbes Magazine

Everybody but themselves,the ultimate in victimhood,
Good Article

8:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave Latin- America alone..!, after all in more than 150 years after the Spaniards were deposed of their ranks in Latin America, to later the void be filed by the US influence, the only good thing it had leave to the Sub-continent is the same misery, how difficult could be for every single people in the US to leave our countries alone and let its people chose its own as their want in the way they wanted, good or bad, after all those are their countries. We don’t blame the US electorate for being stupid as any third world electorate when they elect your d... a.. President, when he do not represent anybody but the US wealthy (e.g. at least 48 million uninsured, more or less the whole population of Argentina and Bolivia together)
Something else, I don’t understand why if all you want in the US for us in Latin America is to succeed, why you don’t let us alone? Denigrating of our institution as your own were so pure, when we all know that the same corruption that runs down here also happens up there (Former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham, Sen. Fritz conflict of interest in creating legislation related to health care, because his stake in HCA, including the settlement with Medicaid before he become majority leader).
Please just try to imagine that we don’t exist and that will make our own world much better, please.
One of the thing that you in the US always forget is that no matter how dome you think we are, we still have memory, and we remember unjustice very well, we remember Allende, we remember Arbentz, we remember Torrijos, and we also remember Somoza, we remember Batista, we remember Trujillo, we remember Videla, yes we remember, lets us chose whom ever we want, let us alone please.

11:00 PM  
Anonymous Mousqueton said...

Your article brings to mind Toynbee's insights as to the role of "social contradictions" in the definition of what constitutes a primitive society.

One thing is sure; it is in no ones interest to let Ecuador continue to slide down the path of anarchism.

It is a pity that our leaders today are so inept and incompetent in foreign relations that they do not know when to step in with a helping hand even when it is obvious and written all over in the walls.

12:33 AM  
Anonymous Mousqueton said...

Anonymous:

You are wrong and further completely naive. Latin America is our business the same way we are Latin America's business. Like it or not, we live in this continent together and fair or unfair we will have to make the best out of it.

By the way, yes, your problems do affect us.

Also, do not expect the US to act as a big brother. We are what we are; selfish, materialistic, greedy, imperialistic and very powerful. We are also stupid, arrogant, ignorant and we have very little tolerance with those who band against us.

Believe it or not, we are also fair, compasionate and respectful.

We are not better than you but we are certainly richer and more powerful.

These are the cards that you have been dealt and instead of hysterically crying "leave us alone", grow up, assume your responsibility and play the best game you can with the cards you have.

1:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andres you got it exactly right!

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey anonymous, it is our business what goes on in Latin America so long as Spanish speaking Latin Americans sneak into the USA by the tens of millions and force themselves on our society and dictate to us that we are going to use Spanish as our language and vow to make us part of the Hispanick World.
If we left Latin America alone, we would be accused by you people of "not caring". If we try to help by any means, we accused of "interference".
Yeah, we supported dictators, because of the greater cause of trying to keep the Russians in check. And since you Hispanicks force your way into the USA claiming you "want to be free", especially Cubans, you should thank us for that.
And if we did support any dictator in Latin America, it came at a tremendous price. We had to pump in billions of dollars into your countries to buy the loyalty of the leader.

Paul Thorsen
PThorsen240@aol.com

11:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andres, the reason no country wants to invest in Spanish speaking Latin America is because they are afraid you people will steal it and take the company over, or "nationalize" it as you people say. Nice euphemism.
Just as you Cubans stole all the USA companies that developed the infrastructure in Cuba. Like Texaco, Exxon, United Fruit, Cuban telephone, First National City Bank of New York.........
The historic legacy of the Hispanick race of people is nothing but theft. You people didn't come to the Americas to find a new place to live, as the English did. You came to steal gold from the Indians. Just like nowadays how you HIspanicks don't come to join USAQ society as all other immigrant groups do. You come to steal the USA from the Anglos and call it your own country, with Spanish the official language and all national holidays honoring Hispanics and all cities and streets being renamed with Spanish names.

Paul Thorsen
PThorsen240@aol.com

11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Mr. Paul Thorsen,
Arrogant and ignorant that’s right, that is what most of you are up there. That is why, now a days, you are the most hated people in the world. Every step you have made in the last six years has only served to create resentment over your selfish policies. It is unfortunate because to be fair, not all the US citizenry are like you. I bet that every single one of the people that write in this blogg are unemployed white trash, Anglo Saxons, the same ones that along with the Spaniards brought to this continent syphilis, gonorrhea, envy, avaricious, hunger, etc, etc, and don’t forget all that you have stolen from the native people of America.
You, in the name of nobody and especially in the name of a utopia like Democracy can not impose your will on anyone for an eternity. Also, before continuing to write in this blogg you all should at least once get out of the United States to see that there is another world out there where people have the same needs as the people from New Orleans for example. If not for the fact that the majority were black they would have received the most needed assistance from your marvelous government. However being black, one year after the hurricane Katrina, like in any other third world country they have not being treated with the dignity and the equality that they deserve. First, take care of your own citizenry, critique yourself and then we can talk about the problems here in South America.
Last for you to learn, dont you ever forget that we dont like Spaniards or Hispanics down here, because we are South Americans or Suramericanos to you.

12:35 AM  
Anonymous E. Franco said...

I'm Ecuadorian and live in Guayaquil. It is shameful our political situation, but it is more embarrasing the terrible experience you've passed.

Don't be impatient, this is only the beginning of a long track of lies, promesses, insults and other tactics that here and everywhere call "POLITICAL MARKETING".

One thing to remark: to your last question the candidates aswered that it is better to use the "Ecuadorian model" as a solution to our problems. Maybe they won't apply it, but it is good to hear an idea like that as a consensus; even coming from... them.

5:49 PM  

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